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NewslettersThumbs up to Amy-Religion has no place in our schools!!
Submitted by carz1 on Sun, 2006-09-10 21:22.
Thumbs up to Amy.What a novel idea... keeping religion out of schools. After all, our kids already have too much on their plates.
You know....no respect,low morals,sky high drop out rates,sex,teen pregnancies,no discipline,drugs......
Shame on you James Harrelson for wanting to change this euphoric,perfect system!!!!
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Hehehe. Good post carz1.
Amy. Why would you want to teach something that changes several times in a human lifetime and ban teaching that which never changes because it is true?
Any more brilliant ideas? Maybe a basketball game in the middle of Parris Island Gateway at 5 p.m. weekdays?
Funny posts on here. Why don't you send these silly responses to the Gazette so they can be published so more people can see just how unchristian your unnecessary sarcasm and nastiness are? Or would you rather hide behind a blog?
So our USA was founded on a principle that no religion should be established, there should be complete freedom of religion or from religion. The motto of the USA back then was a latin one which meant "from many, one" - this motto appeared on US money. During the Civil War about 1861 a Baptist minister from what is now Ridley Park, Delaware Co., PA wrote a letter to the Feds suggesting the motto on currency be changed to "under God We Trust" which became official during the Presidential Administration of D. Eisenhower in 1956. That 1956 was about the same year our USA Pledge added the words "under God" in the middle.
So our country's founders did not want us locked into any religion, but that seems to be changing as time goes on.
Thanks for the info. I knew that Eisenhower in luded "under God: in the pledge.
I think we have to see that statement about establishing religion in the context of the time. There were no democracies when they wrote the constitution. All governments had kings or tyrants, if there is much difference. The monarchs had bishops on their staff and a place in the government for them. Being a part of the government gave them a lot of power and they didn't want competition from other religions. The orignal Church of England was a source of much of this rancor. The flight from those countries to these shores for freedom to worship in different ways caused many people to leave their homeland for fear of persecution and prosecution from those governments.
Personally, I think many take "no religion" too far, especially if the mention of God causes everyone to hold their breath to see what will happen to the offender. This issue will take time to evolve and stabilize, but I think the pendulum has swung too far away from the intent of those founding fathers. After all, we don't have a cabinet office for The Department of Religions yet. It will take time to sort out the issues.
Our original 13 colonies were founded by different groups of emigrants arriving with different religious backgrounds. I wonder how much of this history is ever taught or known?
In 1669, the Lords Proprietors approved the Fundamental Constitution of Carolina, written by John Locke. The Fundamental Constitution granted religious freedom to the colony a year before the first English settlers landed in 1670. For that reason, Charleston, the Lowcountry, and the State were the first places in the Western World to allow religious diversity from inception. Yes, there was the established church, but no one was required to be a member, unlike in the old countries. For that reason, the Huguenots, the Dissenters (Presbyterians), the Jews, the Lutherans, the Baptists, and the Roman Catholics were all very early arrivals. Other colonies recognized religious freedom, but Carolina codified it.
Please tell me we are not teaching our children the preamble. It would be horrible if they heard that our forefathers stated that they believe there is a creator. The nerve of these teachers someone needs to take this issue to the Supreme Court. Just don't take any children inside, because they might notice the 10 commandments alond the crown molding. So let's take them to the House wait can't go there they might hear the opening prayer before every session. I guess they are just doomed to hear about God. Such a travasty!
other posters notice a common thread here that Carolina codified religious freedom. That meant you could believe any way you wanted. However, the underlying basic assumption was that you believed in something. All of the new immigrants brought their religions, they did not bring athiesm ot agnostism for the most part.
Be that as it may, the non-belivers today think that somehow there is a right to be FREE from religion. That is simply not the case. If I have freedom to believe then I have freedom to express myself in any way I wish. If that includes saying a personal prayer in a school or before a meal or even invoking an ecumenical blessing at a public government event, then I have the right to do so.
YOU, if you so choose, have the right to ignore me, protest me, not vote for me and urge others to do the same. You should not have the right to stop me. Unfortunately, there is a move afoot to simply ban all expression of religious thought in all public locations. That is simply wrong. Such elevates the rights of non-believers above the rights of the believers. If you are correct in your belief there is no God or that my God is wrong and yours is right, then what I say is harmless, is it not? So long as I am not requiring participating in the religious activity as part of any poltiical or governmental activitiy, then I should be free to practice it. Even the Supreme Court has stopped the attack on believer rights where you can pray or take 'personal moments' in class and school and governments can dsplay and use religious artifacts that have classical and historical implications.
So, while active teaching of creationism is probably not the best use of time and resources in a public school, there is NO reason why you cannot mention it, its not like religion is an underground secret movement that no child has ever heard of. During the time that origins of life are discussed ,exactly what is wrong about staying that:
"Religions also have a view on the creation of life and of the universe . For example, Hindu's believe Z, Bhuddists, Y, Christians, Jews and Moslems X, etc. For more information on these beliefs please see the 'further information' links section of the text. "
How offensive can the statement of fact be? Gosh we want to 'understand the terrorists' and refuse to give our children accurate information about disputed topics in science? Who knows, maybe God did sneeze and create the world or stretch stardust across the sky. It doesn't mean that he did not also create the laws of math and physics that need to be studied and understood.