Uniforms to be required at all elementary and middle schools; high schools still up in the air

Elementary- and middle-schoolers: start buying your uniforms now. Read the story here.


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While I am generally in favor of uniforms for public school I am not unwavering in my belief. However, if any student should wear uniforms it should be the High School students. Some of them are the ones that dress inappropriately, with so called baggy pants, revealing tops or expensive designer labels. Why would anyone vote for requiring Elementary/Middle School students to wear uniforms and then try to exempt High School students? When is the last time you saw a third grader dress inappropriately for class? It’s this gutless, backwards and embarrassing type of thinking by our School Boards that keeps South Carolina fighting hard for last place. Congratulations, School Board, another stroke of genius ….. As we all expected.


Posted by mark426 - Tue, 2008-08-19 22:05

Just stop by any of the high schools and you would be shocked at the inappropriate dress. While uniforms would be a good thing for the high schools, enforcing it would be another. They can't even get the students now to stop dressing inappropriately. Last year at Beaufort High the requirement was that no cargo jeans/shorts or any shorts with pockets on the leg. I made sure my higher schooler had only shorts or jeans that was required, but take a look at the students, most are wearing the cargo shorts everyday and nothing is said. If uniforms were required and ENFORCED more than half would be sent home everyday.


Posted by Ihadtosayit - Wed, 2008-08-20 07:18

Congratulations on taking a step in the right direction. The mandatory uniform vote is a positive action towards regaining control in schools. Please don't stop shy of the goal...
Uniforms should START with high schools and trickle down if necesssary. High schools need strict uniform codes more so than elementary and middle schools. Requiring elementary and middle school students to wear uniforms then "turning them loose" for high school is ridiculous. Dress code infractions, disrespect and disruptions are most prevalent in our high schools ! Come on BCSB...don't let us down...follow through COMPLETELY on a positive action. Don't water it down dramatically decreasing its effectiveness. Vote YES for high school uniforms !


Posted by truesoutherner - Wed, 2008-08-20 07:55

truesoutherner wrote:

Congratulations on taking a step in the right direction. The mandatory uniform vote is a positive action towards regaining control in schools. Please don't stop shy of the goal...
Uniforms should START with high schools and trickle down if necesssary. High schools need strict uniform codes more so than elementary and middle schools. Requiring elementary and middle school students to wear uniforms then "turning them loose" for high school is ridiculous. Dress code infractions, disrespect and disruptions are most prevalent in our high schools ! Come on BCSB...don't let us down...follow through COMPLETELY on a positive action. Don't water it down dramatically decreasing its effectiveness. Vote YES for high school uniforms !

Wonder why the school districts haven't done what would've worked all along...also, why haven't parents pushed for this before now. Surely they're hip to little boys wearing mirrors on their shoes.


Posted by MotherNature - Wed, 2008-08-20 08:13

I think that enforcing a uniform would be MUCH easier than enforcing a dress code. My high school had a dress code, but it was hard to enforce because it was vague and different administrators would interpret the "rules" differently. With a uniform, however, the violations would be more black and white. The administrators would no longer have to pull out a ruler to measure the thickness of a spaghetti strap to determine whether or not the top conformed with the code. When a student walks in the door he's either wearing the uniform or not wearing the uniform. If he's not wearing the uniform he gets reprimanded. I don't deny that there would be some students determined to fight the system in the beginning, but I'm sure after a few days they'll give up.

Oh, and for those who are against school uniforms because of the "freedom" to express themselves: most jobs have a uniform and/or dress code, and, if you don't follow it, you lose the job. I would LOVE to wear jeans and a t-shirt to work every day, but that's just not the way it works!


Posted by weirdness28 - Wed, 2008-08-20 08:39

King of pain, you need to take a little trip to LIMS before you say that the uniform policy is a success. Everyday last year there were a couple HUNDRED kids that were "cheating." They're either not wearing the proper uniform or not wearing it correctly, such as really long untucked shirts, colored t-shirts under their polos, non-uniform pants, etc. It's a game for the kids to see how they can cut corners on the uniforms. It's RARE to see a kid that has a perfectly put together uniform. Most have some sort of violation. And did I mention that NOTHING is done about these violations. Nothing at all....


Posted by teachermom - Wed, 2008-08-20 15:02

Why in the world would Beaufort High ban the kids from wearing cargo jeans and shorts? That sounds a little ridiculous because the cargo style has been pretty poplular for some time.


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Posted by dixie_girl83 - Wed, 2008-08-20 08:16

dixie_girl83 wrote:

Why in the world would Beaufort High ban the kids from wearing cargo jeans and shorts? That sounds a little ridiculous because the cargo style has been pretty poplular for some time.

Drugs and weapons can be hidden in them.


Posted by MotherNature - Wed, 2008-08-20 08:29

since I was in high school. I graduated from Beaufort High in 2001 when Calvin White was principal. There were certain dress codes for boys and girls, but girls had the more strict policy. Girls couldn't wear halter tops, spaghetti strap shirts or belly shirts. If they wore skirts or shorts they had to be longer than the middle finger when the arms were on the side of the body. If you didn't follow the "dress code" you were sent home. I suppose they are going to try and elimiate anything a student can hide drugs and weapons in which is the right thing to do.


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Posted by dixie_girl83 - Wed, 2008-08-20 09:12

Things have changed. Drugs and weapons are an unfortunate reality in today's schools. These are things kids should NEVER have to worry about.Hopefully, an increased sense of security and safety will be another result of a strictly enforced dress code.


Posted by truesoutherner - Wed, 2008-08-20 11:07

I have been told that Mr. Bennett at LIMS went out and hired Mr. White -apparently the uniforms are being enforced extremely tough and that things are going extremely well with the uniforms.


Posted by Kingofpain14 - Wed, 2008-08-20 11:12
wow

calvin white the inforcer. i think that is a joke.


Posted by pacmanatnightlife - Wed, 2008-08-20 21:13

Believe it or not, what has been "in style and pretty popular for some time" is not what drives a school dress code. Sagging is also a " style that has been pretty popular for some time" but is inappropriate.

Cargo pockets are not allowed in many schools across the country for security purposes. Large over sized cargo pockets allow for concealment of contraband or weapons.


Posted by truesoutherner - Wed, 2008-08-20 08:52

Shorts for boys/young men are hard to find. The only ones in stores are cargo shorts. As long as they aren't 100 sizes too large, then there really isn't a problem. Don't know that they use those pockets anyway.


Posted by snave06 - Wed, 2008-08-20 20:45

I agree, it is very difficult to find shorts in Beaufort that are not cargo shorts. Belks has very few to chose from. You can spend your money buying the shorts that are not cargo and then you stop by the school and most of the students have them on anyway.


Posted by Ihadtosayit - Thu, 2008-08-21 07:10

Ihadtosayit wrote:

I agree, it is very difficult to find shorts in Beaufort that are not cargo shorts. Belks has very few to chose from. You can spend your money buying the shorts that are not cargo and then you stop by the school and most of the students have them on anyway.

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Posted by MotherNature - Thu, 2008-08-21 15:55

Wrong sizes, my boys are in much bigger sizes. I am fully aware that you can find unlimited shorts online, but as I stated they are difficult to find in Beaufort. Trust me, I do find them, I would not allow my children to go to school not dressed appropriately. I am not one of those rule breakers.
Thanks anyway.


Posted by Ihadtosayit - Fri, 2008-08-22 07:36

This morning I found my 8th grade daughter sitting at our kitchen table wearing these little shorty short shorts. They weren't "show your cheeks" short, but they certainly didn't fall below her finger tips. I immediately informed her that she was not going to wear them to school. She asked why, then proceeded to tell me that "everybody" wears them that short and the eighth grade teachers don't pay any attention to what the kids wear, and don't enforce the dress code as much as the other teachers. I told her that I didn't care how many OTHER people broke the rules, she would not be one of them. I earned a dirty look, but by the time we left for school, her outfit was in compliance with the current dress code. I also had to argue with my son because he wanted to wear a pair of ratty-looking cutoff jeans, which may not violate the school's dress code, but certainly violates mine. Not to mention the hugely baggy shirts he wants to wear and the fact that yesterday, he slipped by me wearing a huge shirt, which covered up the fact that he was not wearing a belt, and was therefore sagging under his shirt. Aaaaargh. The uniforms in elementary school were much easier to police. I don't believe the uniform policy will necessarily be any easier to enforce without a detailed plan of action for violators, but it will certainly be easier on us parents who do the enforcement at home.


Posted by alh29907 - Wed, 2008-08-20 09:44

for subjecting yourself to the dirty look and probable "eye roll" from a teenaged daughter this morning. Trust me, as a fellow "warrior", I know that is not how you want to start the day. Length of shorts is the only issue we ever have concerning clothes. Unfortunately, mid-thigh length shorts rarely exist for teen girls. If more parents were as consciencious, we wouldn't even be having this whole "uniform" debate.

Don't know if you heard this from your daughter, but last year there was a challenge from the black students that they were targeted for short shorts more than white girls. They went so far as to try to arrange an experiment to get both sets of girls to violate the dress codes with short shorts to determine who got written up more often. I certainly hope this was not true.


Posted by truesoutherner - Wed, 2008-08-20 11:20

I have gotten so used to the "eye roll" that I completely forgot about it. I even told her not to roll her eyes at me, to which she promptly replied, "I didn't", with another eye roll.
I did not hear about the challenge from the black students, wonder if anyone else heard anything about it.


Posted by alh29907 - Wed, 2008-08-20 12:04

Why does he have these if not to wear them??


Posted by gwg4544 - Wed, 2008-08-20 17:08
gwg

He went to his father's house over the summer and came back with them. I let him wear them, as long as he wears a belt. He is small, and the length of the pants is good, but they are big in the waist.


Posted by alh29907 - Thu, 2008-08-21 09:25

Been there, done that, but I didn't hand over my responsibility to see that my child was dressed appropriately. It's not the school's or the board's responsibility to make parent's jobs easier regarding proper dress. Yes, this may cause some friction on the home front, but that's part of being a parent. You have to draw that line and enforce it. Your kids don't need more friends, they need a mom and dad who will make the tough calls that are in their best interest instead of expecting district mandated rules to do that job.

I agree, there is a problem with SOME of the students, so address it with those who are the problem instead of making everyone else change. The ones who are dressing appropriately will be the only ones following the uniform policy anyway, so what's the point? Just to say, "Hey, we did it! We were pro-active!"

I, for one, will be very sad to see this personal freedom eliminated and fear that this will only teach kids that they can't reason why they need to dress/act in a certain way. They need the government to decided for them. Aren't there more pressing problems in education today? I say just have those who choose to dress inappropropriately changed into school provided jumpsuits which are collected at the end of the day - accompanied with a phone call to parents and documentation. Maybe then, they'll follow the code.


Posted by snave06 - Wed, 2008-08-20 20:43

I simply said that it would be easier for me (not the school) to police a uniform than the current dress code.
I agree that the problem students are the ones this policy is addressing, and the problems will continue with or without a uniform policy unless someone decides to actually enforce whatever policy is in place. But, for those of us parents who do stay on top of what our children are wearing, it will be much easier to keep up with the uniform.
Friction on the home front...I live for it. My kids know who's the boss in our house. And I don't need the school's help. But, if they want to help by instituting a uniform policy, I'm certainly not going to complain.


Posted by alh29907 - Thu, 2008-08-21 09:35
Posted by MotherNature - Wed, 2008-08-20 16:57

You would not believe how much effort, time, and stress is spent on trying to enforce the dress code. As a high school teacher, not a day goes by that I don't have to deal with this issue numerous times. I can spot the girls with the short skirts or the low cut tops. They usually just "happen" to have something else they can put on (imagine that!) or they can call their moms to bring them something else. They aren't the major problem. The sagging pants are another matter entirely! You get beligerence and major attitude. A size 32 boy in a size 42 pair of jeans! Come on! Why would you buy that stuff for your kids? All that ever gets done about it is to tell them to pull them up. Big deal! Two minutes later, if that long, they're down under their behinds again. There are just too many of them to do anything about. We have teachers who will nail a girl for the low cut tops and short skirts, while they let the sagging pants just penquin-waddle right by! I don't know if they're afraid of being called a racist or just don't want to bother. I know some are afraid it will damage their relationship with the student to stay on them about the clothes. Give me a break! Are you their friend or their teacher?! The kids know which few of us enforce the dress code and which of us don't bother, and believe me, they take advantage of it. We're told that it's the culture. Well, if that's true, it's a culture of ignorance and disrespect for themselves and those of us who have to tolerate it! The Hip-Hop and Rap artists who made this idiocy popular should be shot! Uniforms would certainly help the situation and put a stop to the girls who dress like street-walkers, but what about the boys? Unless the proposed uniforms are fitted and ordered through the school, it will never work. You'll still have the same ignorant parents who will buy pants ten sizes too big for skinny little Tyrese and Jamar or what ever their names happen to be. They just don't get it! Furthermore, failure of administrators to back up teachers by actually doing something about the dress code violators is a major contributor to the problem. Put them in a jumpsuit like the prisoners the want so much to emulate. Pull them out of class and deal with all 500 or more of them if that's what it takes. Believe me, kids who insist on dressing like thug-wanna-bes who refuse to follow the rules probably aren't contributing much to the class anyway. If you have ever seen the video that was being circulated around the district email of the sagging pants, big shirt guy with twenty or so weapons hidden in his huge clothes, you'll know why we need to demand that something be done about the uniform situation. Don't wait til next year to start it in high school. Don't even wait until September. Start tomorrow and make sure they fit!!


Posted by oldschoolgal - Wed, 2008-08-20 18:30

Post a teacher who doesn't take cr@p at the front entrance in the morning and the ones that don't cut the mustard just tell them to turn their little butts around to call mom or dad to come get them. Also hand them a reminder flyer of what's not considered appropriate dress to remind the parents of the rules? Parents will sooner or later get tired of getting little want a be gansta / future plaboy model want a be and missing so much work. Ok maybe some of them ;). Just an Idea......


Posted by SharkHunter - Wed, 2008-08-20 20:10

Really? Mr. Bennett hired someone to enforce the dress code? Hmmm...I would've thought enforcing school rules would be the responsibility of the principal and administrative staff. Maybe not, let's just create a position which is something the district has always been famous for when the mood strikes.


Posted by snave06 - Wed, 2008-08-20 20:35

Wow! -I'll research and get back to you.


Posted by Kingofpain14 - Thu, 2008-08-21 05:32

Board Vice Chairman Bob Arundell and the other eight board members need to be replaced. Mr. Earl Campbell looks like the only one that had any well you know what i can't say. how stupid is this. lets require 1st through 9th graders to wear uniforms but lets not make high schoolers wear them. i know this is a little off subject but why are we letting Mr. white back in the school system if he had done such a good job we should not have let him go. if he was sick of it why come back. mabe you let your friends in on the money train. all aboard


Posted by pacmanatnightlife - Wed, 2008-08-20 21:35

Sharkhunter, although I commend your ideas they just won't work. Here's why:

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1. There are many entrances to each school. It is impossible to post a teacher at each entrance to enforce the dress code because there aren't "extra" teachers who can do this. In the morning, teachers are preparing for their lessons and must be in their rooms as children arrive for homeroom. Although it seems like a good idea, in practice there just isn't anyone available to do it unless the school district wants to hire "door monitors" for each entrance at each school in the district. That would be about 3 people for each school at the cost of $$$$$$. There is no money for this, and I'm sure people don't want their taxes going up to cover the cost of the uniform police.

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2. You can't tell the children to "turn around" and go home to change. Once a child enters the school grounds they are not allowed to be released unless signed out by a parent/guardian.

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3. Calling parents seems like a good idea but doesn't work. Often the contact numbers are out of date or disconnected. Parents change jobs and cell phones and don't tell the school. If you can get in touch with a parent at work, they will just tell you that they can't leave. Some don't have their own transportation. Some won't even answer the phone because they already know what the school is calling about and they don't want to be bothered.

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Then what do you do with the improperly dressed student?

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Let's say that 100 kids come to school on Monday with some level of uniform violation. (More like 400 at each high school.) Some don't have the uniform on at all, some are wearing the wrong shirt, some have cargo pants, some have a hot pink t-shirt under their polo, etc. What do you do with them? Now you have 100 kids in the lunch room while the office staff tries to contact their parents. The kids are missing class. They are not learning. They are not being able to do what they are supposed to be in school for.

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Who is watching this group of 100 violators? Teachers? No, they have to teach. Office staff? No they're calling parents (and not doing what they were hired to do.) Principal/Vice Principal? They have important jobs and get paid a lot of money to do them. Principals are not babysitters.

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Now it's 10am and you still have 50 kids in the lunch room whose parents have not come in, and lunch is going to begin. Where do you move these kids to? Can't use the library or gym. Who has been watching them for the past 3 hours? But most importantly is the fact that they are NOT IN CLASS!!!!! At 2:30 it's the end of the school day and they have received NO INSTRUCTION all day! Imagine this going on each and every day in every school in the district!

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See how crazy this is?

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What actually happens is that the school just lets the violators get away with it. The teachers might say something to them such as, "Tomorrow you better not come to school in jeans," but that's it. There is no way to enforce the uniform policy. It sounds great on paper, but it just doesn't work in the real world. Eventually the uniform policy becomes a ridiculous mess at the school because there's no real way to enforce it.

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If you think I'm wrong, go visit any of the schools in the district that have uniforms anytime after the middle of October. You'll see what I'm talking about.


Posted by teachermom - Thu, 2008-08-21 08:28

Obviously you have visited the schools that I have.


Posted by Ihadtosayit - Thu, 2008-08-21 08:44

It's sad, isn't it?


Posted by teachermom - Thu, 2008-08-21 10:28

No matter what you do rule breakers will continue to be rule breakers. They will find a way. It is sad.


Posted by Ihadtosayit - Thu, 2008-08-21 10:31

Speeding-There are hundreds of millions of drivers in this country alone, and only a few million cops. Millions of roads to patrol, but limited number of cops to patrol them.

Drinking and driving-See above

Murder-See above

Kidnapping-See above

(Insert your favorite crime here)-See above

You're right teachermom. Let's get rid of all the laws and rules because they're just impossible to enforce. Or how about this? Since school uniforms have been approved, let's all work together to make it work instead of fighting it. If we all do our part, it will work. I can guarantee you that I will make sure that neither of my three school age kids will ever leave the house to go to school out of uniform no matter how much of a fit they throw or how many times they roll their eyes at me, because that's part of being a parent. Will you do your part?


Posted by Stoney_pe - Thu, 2008-08-21 09:06

Thankfully, we have a professional police force in our country that are hired, trained and paid to enforce the laws. This is their job.

Unfortunately, the Beaufort County School District doesn't have "uniform police" nor are they planning to hire, train or pay anyone to perform these duties.

P.S. -- I never said that I'm against uniforms. I'm just in a position to see first-hand how they are unenforceable and cause more problems than they solve.


Posted by teachermom - Thu, 2008-08-21 10:27

teachermom wrote:

...I never said that I'm against uniforms...

teachermom wrote:

...they are unenforceable and cause more problems than they solve....

Which is it?

Also, I thought we had paid professionals in our schools to enforce school rules. Who enforces the no talking in class rule? Or the no leaving the classroom without permission rule? Or the no homework no grade rule? Or the no fightint in school rule?
I'm just guessing that you're just against uniforms because now you have a new job that you don't want. If it's any consolation to you, if my kids are even in one of your classes, you can be sure you won't have problems with their uniforms.


Posted by Stoney_pe - Thu, 2008-08-21 16:37

Thanks for asking, I'm actually for uniforms. Unfortunately, we don't live in a fantasy world and uniforms are unenforceable and cause more problems than they solve. You will have hundreds of kids everyday wearing some sort of uniform violation. It may be small, but it will be a violation. And until ALL, I repeat ALL levels of uniform violations are enforced, the uniform policy is a failure. There isn't a school in Beaufort County that can do it properly. Heck, we've had a dress code in Beaufort County schools for as long as I can remember and we can't even enforce that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let me answer your questions:

You wrote:"Who enforces the no talking in class rule? Or the no leaving the classroom without permission rule?"

This is the teacher's job because teachers have been hired to educate children. When kids talk in class or leave class without permission they are keeping themselves and the other kids in the class from learning.

You also wrote, "Or the no homework no grade rule?"

This is not a rule. It's not even true. Students receive a grade of "F" when they don't do their homework.

As for the, "No fightint in school rule?"

This is the job of the SRO or Assistant Principals. NOT the teachers. In fact, we are told not to get involved and instead call for help.

Again, let me say that I am for uniforms. Please don't make an assumption about me. Thank you.


Posted by teachermom - Thu, 2008-08-21 20:35

teachermom wrote:

Thanks for asking, I'm actually for uniforms...

but

teachermom wrote:

...uniforms are unenforceable and cause more problems than they solve...
...the uniform policy is a failure...
...There isn't a school in Beaufort County that can do it properly...
...Heck, we've had a dress code in Beaufort County schools for as long as I can remember and we can't even enforce that...

I am not assuming anything about you; I'm just reading your words.

If you have any spare time, I'd like to hire you to be a political campaign spokeswoman. Not for the candidates I like though, but for the ones I would never want to see in office.

I like your point by point explanations. When I said no homework, no grade, I meant no good grade, but I stand corrected, thanks. Also, you mean to tell me there is one SRO or Assistant Principal present at every class at all times in case there is a fight? If not, by your logic, the no fighting in school rule cannot be enforced and thus shouldn't exist.

I know is one more responsibility for the teachers, but the uniform rule should be pretty easy to enforce.

If I were to take the opening for Spanish teacher opening at Beaufort High as another blogger suggested (don't worry, my wife won't let me), I guarantee you there would not be uniform violations in my class after the first week.

The first day of class, I would inform all the students that in order to enter in my classroom they will have to be in proper uniform or they might as well go straight to the principal's office or wherever they go when they're not allowed in class. Also, I would inform them that there would be random quizzes at the beginning of class that will count for 50% of their total grade, so basically you're out of uniform or continuously tardy, there goes 50% of your grade. Sooner than you'll know, they'll all be on time and dressed properly...two birds with one stone, and in the end, they will have learned some Spanish, to follow the rules and that there are consequences to their actions...I guess actually three birds with one stone. A pretty good education if you ask me.

I see this whole uniform business as an oportunity to educate while others see it as an opportunity to complain. Which side are you on?


Posted by Stoney_pe - Fri, 2008-08-22 09:27

[quote=Stoney_.

I guarantee you there would not be uniform violations in my class after the first week.

Take the job, we need more assertive teachers, administrators and parents.
It doesn't matter what the policy at school is, in my house the policy is to wear appropriate clothing, tucked in shirts with belts on at all times.


Posted by Ihadtosayit - Fri, 2008-08-22 10:26

teachermom wrote:

Thankfully, we have a professional police force in our country that are hired, trained and paid to enforce the laws. This is their job.

Unfortunately, the Beaufort County School District doesn't have "uniform police" nor are they planning to hire, train or pay anyone to perform these duties.

P.S. -- I never said that I'm against uniforms. I'm just in a position to see first-hand how they are unenforceable and cause more problems than they solve.

It certainly is easier to identify a perpetrator of illegal dress codes when everyone has to wear the same thing. The violator would stick out like the proverbial swollen thumb and the resource officer, or, wow, even one of the regular staff, could identify and prosecute them.


Posted by MotherNature - Thu, 2008-08-21 17:15

MotherNature wrote:

It certainly is easier to identify a perpetrator of illegal dress codes when everyone has to wear the same thing. The violator would stick out like the proverbial swollen thumb and the resource officer, or, wow, even one of the regular staff, could identify and prosecute them.

Please read my post above about what I see at LIMS everyday.


Posted by teachermom - Thu, 2008-08-21 20:16
Posted by teachermom - Thu, 2008-08-21 10:27

They won't follow the rules so scr&w it ? How about strike one a written warning to the parent, then strike two sent home for a week, strike three find another school. If you do not make the punisment hurt "no teeth behind it" of course you will be ran over. It's like telling little johnny you better not do that again or else for the tenth time, the kids playing you. After the second time just take his little rear end straight to the bathroom and take care of business. If you do not fully enforce the uniforms or dress code (the whole school system) and mean it then don't have it. It's great to say look at what we did but in reality you didn't do squat (half abide by the rules / half don't). ENFORCE it ALL the Way and back the teachers or don't bother with it at all. Before I hear the child will suffer and won't be getting an education. boo ho, boo ho Life is TOUGH !


Posted by SharkHunter - Thu, 2008-08-21 17:31

SharkHunter wrote:

After the second time just take his little rear end straight to the bathroom and take care of business.

Are you on drugs?


Posted by teachermom - Thu, 2008-08-21 20:13

But therein lie the problems. Tell a child that banishment from school is a viable punishment, and many will think it's a bonus and leave. And, the barnyard theory is excellent, but, the law took the paddle out of the hands of teachers years ago, and that is when education began to fail!!!! Long live the paddle!!!!!!!!!


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