A bail out plan I'd endorse
Try this math! Great idea!
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If it were actually this straightforward and easy to do!
I’m against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.
Instead, I’m in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a "We Deserve It Dividend".
To make the math simple, let’s assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+.
Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up. So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.
My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a We Deserve It Dividend.
Of course, it would NOT be tax free.
So let’s assume a tax rate of 30%.
Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes. That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam. But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket. A husband and wife has $595,000.00. What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?
Pay off your mortgage – housing crisis solved.
Repay college loans – what a great boost to new grads
Put away money for college – it’ll be there
Save in a bank – create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
Buy a new car – create jobs
Invest in the market – capital drives growth
Pay for your parent’s medical insurance – health care improves
Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean – or else
Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.
If we’re going to re-distribute wealth let’s really do it...instead of trickling out a puny $1,000.00 ( “vote buy” ) economic incentive that is being proposed by one of our candidates for President. If we’re going to do an $85 billion bailout, let’s bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+!
As for AIG – liquidate it. Sell off its parts. Let American General go back to being American General. Sell off the real estate. Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.
Here’s my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn’t.
Sure it’s a crazy idea that can “never work.”
But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!
How do you spell Economic Boom?
I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion.
We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC . And remember, this plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.
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Ahhh...I feel so much better getting that off my chest.
Kindest personal regards,
JUst got this in my email.
If Obama backs this plan I'm voting for him and you'll all just have to "hush my mouth and call me cornpone".
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I'll back that plan.
I haven't done the math, but I'll take your word for it.
I remember back early in the Clinton years when I was told we were spending $40,000 per homeless person per year (my guess is that is double by now). I thought, for that why not just buy em a house. Paid for in 2 years.
I like your plan.
Ooops just did the math. I think it's only $425 per person. But what the heck, I'll still take that over bailing out a bunch of idiots.
Regardless, I'm buying Beer & Hookers. Why spend Gov money on anything sensable, they don't..
adracers plan doesn't get us out of the housing crisis, but it gets us all beer and hookers.
Not bad.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/23/paul.bailout/index.html?iref=topnews
Ron Paul - I'm telling you the guy makes sense . . . too much common sense if you ask me.
Adracer has a GREAT idea - but think of the inflation that'll cause - every married couple gets $850k and pretty soon Bud will run out of beer.
Now, I'd use to pay OFF my mortgages, pay my taxes, and deal with the fallout of the collapse of AIG's paper.
The reality is people will stop bargaining over stuff, prices will rise, and pretty soon it'll cost $75 for a beer at Brewers.
Joe, thanks for the Tip, I am doubling my Tri-weekly Beer Delivery, that way I will have plenty of cheap beer to barter for food and nachos when the economic market crashes and we are all plundged into an "Escape from New York" world where only Kurt Russell is cool. I will be the "Duke" of Beaufort !!! I'm draining the pool as we speek ! Thanks Mean Joe!
So simple, So logical. You're right that it would never work, it makes entirely too much sense. Hard working Americans spend our lives raking and saving at every opportunity just to try to be comfortable if we make it to retirement and hopefully be able to provide a better life for our kids.
Something as innovative as this would kick start the economy like never before. Anybody up for lobbying congress?!!
divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.
Let's make the math a little easier:
Simply cancel out all the common zeros and divide the leftovers (first canceling out the common zeros does the same math, but makes it easier for you to see by pre-dividing both numbers by 100,000,000).
Since "200 million" (="200,000,000" called the divisor) has eight zeros in common with the nine zeros from "85 billon" (="85,000,000,000" called the dividend), canceling out all the common zeros between the dividend & divisor leaves you with 850 (dividend), which you then just divide by 2 (divisor).
850/2=425
So the cited/suggested "bailout" result would really only be 425 per person over 18, NOT 425,000.
Alternatively, on a Windows computer, the "mathematically-challenged" can simply click: Start, Run, and then type: "calc" and hit "Enter" or "return". The calculator should appear.
JUst got this in my email.
Hopefully, other email from the same sender is not being taken just as seriously...
dbd
You did the math...you ruined the joke.
folks, 800 billion divided by 200 million is $4000 per head. Are you ALL public school graduates? ;-)
I was too, but they actually made me not only memorize the math but understand the concept as well.
Here is the math.
800,000,000,000
----------------
200,000,000
take out the Zeros
8000 / 2 = $4000
folks, 800 billion divided by 200 million is $4000 per head. Are you ALL public school graduates? ;-)
I was too, but they actually made me not only memorize the math but understand the concept as well.
Here is the math.
800,000,000,000
----------------
200,000,000
take out the Zeros
8000 / 2 = $4000
Typical yankee. Good math skills, but your reading comprehension sucks, plus you think you are smarter than the typical southerner. Remember, ignorance begets arrogance.
Try 85 billion divided by 200 million.
KT
folks, 800 billion divided by 200 million is $4000 per head. Are you ALL public school graduates? ;-)
I was too, but they actually made me not only memorize the math but understand the concept as well.
Here is the math.
800,000,000,000
----------------
200,000,000
take out the Zeros
8000 / 2 = $4000
Typical yankee. Good math skills, but your reading comprehension sucks, plus you think you are smarter than the typical southerner. Remember, ignorance begets arrogance.
Try 85 billion divided by 200 million.
KT
I, for one, am so happy that KT and his/her myriad alter egos are back among the blogging. It was so boring around here without their insults, spellchecking, pot-calling-the-kettle-black comments, and yankee hate messages.
Everyone prepare yourself for round 10, or 20, or whatever we're up to now. In this corner, Stoney_pe, typical husband, father, and all-around intelligent guy, spotted occasionally by his wife, nomarypoppins. And in this corner, Luther/Lisa2/KTOPG32/SkipHunt/tengai2008/Haynesworth, typical troll with homophobia, gender, and identity issues.
Hang on tight, and fasten your seatbelts. It's about to get wild. Hey, does anybody have any popcorn?
Or is it ahl? It's beginning to sound like you may be another one of Stoney/nmp/Savanna's personnas. Where the heck did the "hate" aspect come from? Anything that doesn't suit you and your naivete all of a sudden becomes hate?
I'm Haynesworth, previously known as KTOGP32. You probably owe the other bloggers you mentioned an apology for associating them with me.
"All-around intelligent guy?" You're trying for the funniest comment of the day, right?
KT
Remember how you supposedly weren't here when all the fake names started showing up? You were at a "primitive cabin" right after your "Formula 1" race. Did you forget?
So how is it that you weren't here and yet you know that there was someone around here going by ahl?
You're right about one thing. Should anyone associate a real blogger with you, that real blogger does deserve an apology. However, we all know that you're not just Haynesworth. You're also at least KT, KTOGP32, Haynesworth, Skiphunt, Tengai2007, Luther, Lisa2, and, now that you slipped, ahl29907, Trusoutherner, Nomerrypoppins, and Stoney, so they won't be needing an apology.
You've got it all figured out. It couldn't be possible that I used "recent posts" or "readers' blogs" to catch up on some old stuff, eh? If your super memory were really super you would know I was back before Steve did his bannings and deletions. Truth be known, all that name manipulation stuff was your handiwork anyway. I'm not sure what your motivations are at this point, but it is clear that you are one disturbed dude.
BTW, why would I want to copy you and use multiple screen names? I don't need anyone to "have my back" as you and JS like to say.
I'm Haynesworth, formerly known as KTOGP32, and I approve this message.
KT
Nice story. Too bad nobody believes it, but nice try...oh wait...you do believe it. Don't you?
Just lost the diet coke!! Thanks for the laugh!!
Hope I didn't mess up your keyboard.
Looks like Stoney_pe is holding his own. KT's taken a few on the chin, but doesn't seem to be letting up a whole lot. Stay tuned for further updates.
Keyboard is fine.
Yeah, Stoney is holding his own...wish he would stop though...the accusation that we are one and the same is kinda getting old.
Kt did make me laugh though with the whole "thought JS was the one that had your back".
If he wants to battle with my husband...at least find something good to battle about!
at least find something good to battle about!
The whole "identity" think is silly. The truth is, I have had two: KTOGP32/Haynesworth. For whatever that matters.
If Stoneypee wants to 'fess up, we can go on to bigger and better things. At this point though, I don't think you have anything to offer other than trying to be witty & clever and demeaning and belittling others.
KT
at least find something good to battle about!
The whole "identity" think is silly. The truth is, I have had two: KTOGP32/Haynesworth. For whatever that matters.
If Stoneypee wants to 'fess up, we can go on to bigger and better things. At this point though, I don't think you have anything to offer other than trying to be witty & clever and demeaning and belittling others.
KT
BTW KT It's identity THING not identity THINK.... Gotcha.. Better go back to that "primitive cabin" and retrieve one of those dictionaries you hid!!
BWHAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAHAAAAAA!!!
now THAT is funny!!!!
Of course you know that was just a test to see if you were paying attention! Stoneypee/nmp/Savanna does it all the time. And so do you, of course!
I'm going to start sprinkling my posts with them just to make sure who is reading them.
I'll have to admit.....a really convenient excuse.
KT
Of course you know that was just a test to see if you were paying attention! Stoney_pe does it all the time...
I'm going to start sprinkling my posts with them...
First you stalk me, post my personal info online, even my race times, you do an entire internet search on me, then you change your screen name to Stoney, and now you want to do the same things I do?
It surprises me that someone who stands on top of the mountain and tells the world how inferior to you I am would try so hard to be me.
Everybody needs heroes, Vitto, and although I should feel honored that I am yours, I am going to have to decline. I do not want to be your hero.
Was that for him or me?
I am witty and clever...at least some think so.
He is demeaning and belittling to others...at least some think so.
I am charming and nice...at least some think so.
He is not always charming and nice...at least some think so.
Not that I think that...I actually like him...it has taken me 20 years but I really do like him! he he
Not sure what you want him to fess up to...
...demeaning and belittling others...
Hey, John Rocker/KT/KTOGP32/Haynesworth/Luther/Lisa2/Tengai2007/Skiphunt/Trusoutherner/ahl29907/nomerrypoppins/Fake Stoney/ who know what else, the kettle just called and want you to stop calling him black.
Thats the bailout plan. $85B is chump change - And its gonna hit a trillion.
folks, 800 billion divided by 200 million is $4000 per head. Are you ALL public school graduates? ;-)
I was too, but they actually made me not only memorize the math but understand the concept as well.
Here is the math.
800,000,000,000
----------------
200,000,000
take out the Zeros
8000 / 2 = $4000
Its public school graduates all right. We have a serious cash flow issue brought on directly by cash flowing out of this country via oil. Hundreds of billions every year now. We have the left who has successfully blocked one form of energy production after another blaming everyone else but the people who caused the cash flow problem. They did. Can you blame foriegn investors for pulling their money out they made on the oil they sold us because the dollar isn't worth what it was? I don't.
That no one would do the math. Since we have become a nation of lemmings, this was an exercise designed to see who would read it and just accept it as fact and who would really "do the math".
Quit ruining my jokes or you'll have to buy the first round.
'member? Next Thurs - San Jose - 6.30pm.
See you all there - first round on me -
Joe
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