McCain Needs To Take Off His Gloves
Naval Academy cadets must, at some time, get in the boxing ring and go against their classmates. One particular match was epic and true..Ollie North aginst James Webb. Ollie North won the match but lost getting promoted to Colonel when James Webb became the Secretary of the Navy. John McCain is backed in a corner now with Obama lying about getting his cronies to insult McCain's career while his cronies go about trying to demean everything McCain did in the military including graduating in the bottom of his class. It's high time McCain took off his gloves.
During POW training, at some point, POW's unite against captors and try to overcome them. This is time for Republicans to unite and go against the enemy of the US...those who are failing to defend our constitution and those who want to destroy our ability to defend our country...Democrats.
The incredible and inept press is trying to get the most dangerous man elected in our history. Without question, if he is elected, we will be attacked or our allies will be."
Read this:
Courage Under Fire
General Clark misses the point.
By Kathleen Parker
Being shot down may not qualify one to be president, as retired Gen. Wesley Clark infamously said recently. But what men do under fire might tell us about the character we may discover in a president.
Clark’s precise words, aimed at undermining John McCain’s executive experience, were: “I don’t think getting in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to become president.” In fairness, Clark also praised McCain’s heroism, saying that he honored his service as a prisoner of war and even that “he was a hero to me.”
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Predictably, Republicans were outraged and Democrats were outraged at the GOP’s outrage. For his part, Barack Obama performed the political minuet of condemn ‘n’ distance. He condemned the remarks and distanced himself from his surrogate/general.
McCain made a few tepid remarks, but mostly let others put Clark in his place. And, though McCain is clearly content to use the iconic image of his younger pilot self for campaign purposes, he also has shrugged off his heroism.
“It doesn’t take a great deal of effort to get shot down,” McCain himself is fond of saying.
As the news cycle churns, Clark’s comment was yesterday’s chum. It was in poor taste, yes, but it wasn’t the first time he had expressed similar thoughts. National Review’s Byron York blogged in March that Clark viewed McCain’s combat experience as inferior to Hillary Clinton’s qualifications for office.
“If you look at what Hillary Clinton has done during her time as the first lady of the United States, her travel to 80 countries, her representing the U.S. abroad, plus her years in the Senate, I think she’s the most experienced and capable person in the race,” York quotes Clark as saying.
Ahem. Well. So much for that. Now that Clark is a military adviser to Obama, he apparently is still skeptical about McCain’s qualifications.
Let’s concede that surviving torture doesn’t necessarily endow one with presidential mettle. And, fine, being shot down doesn’t qualify one to direct the executive branch.
But Clark misses the point of McCain’s story.
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McCain isn’t a hero because he was tortured. He’s a hero because he declined an offer by his captors to be released, refusing to leave his fellow Americans behind.
It may not take much effort to get shot down, but it must take a considerable act of will to consign oneself to more deprivation and torture. It must take a level of courage unknown to most to place concern for others above one’s own interest.
#ad#Surely self-sacrifice, courage and loyalty figure somewhere in the calculus for selecting a president.
We can make no similar analysis of Obama, since he hasn’t fought in any wars in his lifetime. But we have been given a glimpse at how Obama responds to external pressures and where he draws the line on loyalty and self-sacrifice. When it comes to family and friends, it seems Obama is first a survivalist.
A few months ago, when the Rev. Jeremiah Wright first came to national attention, Obama was nearly demure when he said: “I can no more disown (Wright) than I can disown my white grandmother.”
He may not have disowned his white grandmother, but Obama didn’t exactly paint a sympathetic — or loving — portrait of her either. He essentially threw her under the bus, saying that she had made racist remarks while he was growing up, a statement that served only to highlight Obama’s own remarkable transcendence.
After several weeks of balancing his professed love for Wright with the controversial statements of his chosen father figure and spiritual mentor, Obama eventually left his church of 20 years. But why then, after all those years, did Obama finally find the door?
What changed was the degree of his self-interest. As long as Wright was helping Obama burnish his bona fides within the African-American community, it didn’t matter that the minister’s rhetorical flights of fancy bordered on paranoid, racist delusion. Only when Wright became a potential obstacle to Obama’s ambition — by saying that Obama was simply behaving as a politician — did Obama show Wright the underside of that very busy bus.
Clark is right that getting shot down doesn’t qualify one to be commander-in-chief. But it is relevant to wonder with whom one would rather share a foxhole.
— Kathleen Parker is a syndicated columnist and author of Save the Males: Why Men Matter; Why Women Should Care.
© 2008, Washington Post Writers Group"
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is a pretty sharp individual. After all, it takes much to reach the rank of General. What he failed to state (or perhaps omitted to avoid embarrassing McCain) is that McCain wasn't quick enough to avoid being shot down in the first place! And that was when he was young and still had all of his faculties working in full force.
Wesley Clark is about as sharp as the leading edge of a bowling ball. He was a "yes man" and moved up on that.
You ever been flying over enemy territory, scoot? Go try and check back in.
Clark was way out of bounds with his comment.
Clark's statement that McCain didn't reach an executive level in the military is a true statement. He didn't lie. But as a fellow officer, he didn't have to make a public statement like that. Mc Cain shoved it off and said having executive experience is not necessary for a POTUS. He is also right. Obama is staying away publicly because he doesn't want to be seen as denigrating a war hero. That is a smart move. He will allow his minions to do that.
Clark is a liberal politician that happened to gain rank in the military. He is intelligent as his school records help indicate. He now wants to use that rank to help him get a job in Obama's administration, if he wins.
MY problem with Clark is that he is using his rank as a means for publicity and being critical of a fellow officer for political purposes. Somehow, something smells around Clark when he ignores the military code of ethics. He will become the loser if he continues.
Gen Clark has become nothing more than a hatchet man for the DNC. But, if Obama is elected he will be apointed to either NSA or Homeland Security Secretary for his good work on the campaign.
Some people serve and earn their rank, but some people brown nose their way up the ranks in the military, and Gen. Clark is one of them. They stick around until they can retire because they can't hack it in the real world, make the right connections, keep your nose clean, do just enough and eventually get promoted because that's just how the system works, but that doesn't make you a good soldier, airman, sailor or Marine (Ooh Rah).
This man is a joke. Getting shot down isn't a sign of incompetence. It doesn't make you a hero either. What makes you a hero is your actions after your plane crashes, and Sen. McCain's actions made him one. Anyone who questions his service ought to be shot.
The General is just out there doing B.O.'s dirty work. B.O. can't say those things himself, but some "independent" person can. Independent? Right! I wonder who the General is voting for and supporting and why he appeared on the Sunday shows spewing his venom. Interesting how he didn't say anything about B.O.'s service...oh wait...what service?
B.O. is a new kind of politician...yeah right. All he has is the same rhetoric, the same promises and the same tactics that liberals use every election cycle, but only in a different package.
Shame on the General and shame on B.O.
Back then how easy was it to avoid being shot down? I think we all need to hear from someone who flew during the Vietnam Era.
Wesley Clark has no business degrading McCain for being shot down or stating he is not qualified to be President. This guy is a joke. Obama is more qualified? Give me a break! Clark needs to shut his mouth. Or maybe it might even be better if he keeps on blabbing, dig himself & Obama into a bigger hole. Whether or not Obama put him up to making the statements, I guess we will never know.
Back then how easy was it to avoid being shot down? I think we all need to hear from someone who flew during the Vietnam Era.
Try this website. Write to this guy. He is a true American, flew 162 combat missions over Vietnam and got the Distinguished Flying Cross. Also coach of a US Olympic team. Just an average kid from a working class family who grew up in a city rowhouse.
www.usghof.org/files/bio/k_schier/k_schier.html
He is one of those four boys we girls could never get ahead of, gradewise, in our classes at school.
Don't count me as an expert but one reason many avoided flight school was the horrific rate at which the US was losing pilots during Vietnam.
The Navy was an odd operation during McCains day. Getting shot down doesn't qualify you to be president is for the most part true, over 3000 pilots were shot down during the war but I think holding up as a prisoner shows an amount of courage few americans can question.
Keep in mind that top gun school was formed in part due to the staggering loses sustained during the Viet Nam war.
In short because of poor training many air crews simply flew north and were shot down and many more than once.
So from a surface perspective, anyone who put on a flight suit was nuts!
Just my 2 cents
. .. not cool at all.
Have you any idea of the rules of engagement during that air war?
We could not shoot at the SAM sites until AFTER McCain was shot down because they were manned [supposedly] by Soviet advisors which could have 'widened' the war - which was doublespeak for nuking the world.
You can do everything you can to be safe and avoid being shot down and when the magic bullet appears it has your name on it.
You ever have any friends who were top notch riders - get spilled and hurt badly by events that they could not control?
Yes - the SAMs used in 'nam at the beginning looked like telephone poles coming at you with a smoke trail, but that does not mean that you were either too low to avoid it or on some sort of bomb run and unable to avoid, it happens in war. And to say something like 'not a good enough pilot to avoid it' is just plain cold and very civilian in thinking.
Got to give you props on this post!
My cousin an F/A 18 driver with the 323 death rattlers will tell you it's pretty much an over the horizon operation now.
But back in the day you were on the deck taking fire all the time.
I always thought the air-to-mud guys were nuts.
And - a FIGHTER pilot shoots at other airplanes.
An ATTACK pilot shoots at things on the ground. EVERY Marine pilot is an Attack Pilot. Most of the current thinking in the Marines is that if you don't kill people and break things on the ground you are worthless as an aviator.
Us ex-Naval Aviators had lots of respect for the guys who went low downtown - but our job was make sure there was a place for the Marine pilots to come back and land. . . having someone sink the carrier makes for a very bad day for the pilots - and a worse one for the taxpayers. . . things have changed alot in that the F/A-18 used everywhere is not primarily an attack aircraft. The old F-14's were used for carrier defense primarily though a few -D models were turned into Bombcats . . .
Roger That!
I was a gunner on AC-130's in SouthEast Asia (Viet Nam war). There were radar guided AAA and SAM sites all over the Ho Chi Minh Trail where we flew our missions. It's not a matter of dodging bullets behind a tree or a wall. It was a matter of breaking radar lock AND missing the flak after altitude or proximity fuses set off the projectile.
And while each of us wanted to get into a gunfight with the AAA sites, we were forbidden to do so, per the Pentagon. We were assigned F-4 caps who would go in on the guns and knock them out. These gunships flew at 5500' AGL at about 230 KAS...a very tempting target for 23mm, 37mm, or 57mm AAA gunners. We got to be pretty good at baiting AAA and flying out of their trajectories but SAMs were a different animal. They had engines and were guided to target, regardless of arial skill, especially in that large, slow-moving 130. There was just one maneuver of hope and we were told that if we ever got a 3 ring lock-on, might as well go ahead and bail out.
Skill was important. Luck was more so.
Joe, I do have knowledge of those rules of engagement! Do you???????????? And, I was not trying to be cool, just truthful!
not find anything? Good . . .
If you are interested we can talk at the next blixxer
What was Obama's excuse not to even serve our Country? Clinton the Draftdodger. Those on the left have a sickening whine that most of us Vets can't tolerate. They need to stay at home and make cookies and cut the lawn for wifey. Our youth have more goNation than those punks do and most of them Lefties are unbelievable cowards. America wasn't built on running and We face a Battle with idiots both here and abroad apparently.
Fighter pilots are some of the most heroic people that I have seen. F-4, Skyhawks, Chopper pilots landing in hot LZ's to rescue the wounded and pick up the dead. We celebrate our Independence as a Free Country by people with nuts. Enjoy your Celebration and drink a beer for those overseas.
Freddie FD: Amen & I will have a beer(s) for those o/s.
I am no leftist by any means. Nobody has more respect for our military than I do, NOBODY! I do have issues however with lame a$$ed politicians who think they can use the children of the US as cannon fodder so that big military-industrialists can profit! They did it in Nam, and they are doing it now! McCain is a man who deserves respect, but he is not the man to lead our country and help preserve our next generation. I don't like any of the candidates that are running this year, but Obama is by far the lesser of the evils. McCain would press that red button in a heartbeat, and we don't need any of that! McCain is like Bush on steroids and Geritol!
Scooter, What about Obama meeting with the Section 8 from Iran with NO pre-conditions???? How 'bout him taxing us to death with the spending he is proposing? I'm Republican and PROUD OF IT.
What makes you think that McCain is a war monger? Someone with his experiences in battle understand how friends can be blown up in an instant. He himself knows the pain of being in a war. He would be one of the LAST POTUS to send troops into harm's way.
Liberals somehow have the idea that the Republican Party is so anxious to push the red button. Look at history. Republicans have started two wars, the Gulf War and the Iraqi War. In both cases the military was prepared for the fight and the UN and the congress approved.
Think Democrats don't have wars? How about WWI, WWII, Viet Nam and Kosovo. Why did the US get involved? Right, we didn't push the red button first. We were dragged into those wars. Why?
Criminals will seek out victims that appear weak and helpless. Dictators do the same. In each of the wars mentioned, the Democrats were in power, reduced our defense budget and spent it on social programs. Reducing our defense budget placed our military in weak positions and our enemies knew it. If the US had a superior military military as we have had since Reagan, some of those wars might have been averted. Remember the rescue debacle during Carter's presidency to rescue the Iranian hostages? The helicopters had to have parts taken from others just to make the flight and even those birds were undependable.
Have we learned a lesson? Maybe not, because now we have Obama, a liberal Democrat, saying he will reduce the defense budget and spend it on social programs. Is this a repeat of WWI, WWII, Viet Nam and Kosovo? YES!!!
If he wins, look out for a large war with our military in weak shape and unable to respond. There are dictators out there waiting for a weak moment.
Thanks Blaze, for posting this article. Kathleen Parker is an astute & entertaining syndicated columnist who lives right here in South Carolina. I would encourage everyone to check out some of her other articles. Here's one location where they are archived:
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/kathleen/parker.archives.asp
Kathleen Parker currently has a book out titled: "Save the Males - Why Men Matter, Why Women Should Care" which addresses the male-bashing and misandry of our culture today. She is sometimes a guest on radio & t.v. shows, so keep an eye out for one of our fellow South Carolinians - she is a credit to our state.