POP: Wall-E! Top Pixar movies ever! New James Bond!

A few quick hits:

James Bond

In case you haven’t had it sent to you a dozen times, here’s the trailer for the new James Bond movie, Quantum of Solace (still one of the worst titles for a movie ever):





Apparently this movie picks up where the last Bond left off, continuing that story. (Was there a story to continue?) We’re not sure we like that idea. Part of the fun of the Casino Royale was rebooting Bond, seeing how he became the agent we later knew. So, great, we did that. Let’s fast forward a year or two, see how he has grown, how the other characters in the Bond world have grown, introduce Q, maybe go old-school and introduce an “old” Bond villain, like Ernst Blofeld or SPECTRE. But revitalize them in the way you did Bond in Casino, make them modern and rough and real.

But, no, we’re getting to see how he has grown ... in the five minutes since the last movie ended. We’re not saying Quantum won’t be great, just that we had wished to get a different story.

But, hey, at least we know that Bond apparently waxes his chest. So, there’s that.

Obligatory Lost post of the week

A friend/reader (freader?) sent this in. We don’t even know what to think about this. It’s kind of ... odd. Enjoy:

NEED A "LOST" FIX? CONNECT WITH THE HIT SHOW BY READING OR LISTENING TO THE BOOKS FEATURED OVER THE PAST FOUR SEASONS

ABC.com Launches "Lost Book Club"

List to Be Updated Regularly on ABC.com and Also Featured on iTunes

Do you need a "Lost" fix? Beginning today, ABC.com is launching the "Lost Book Club" which will give fans new insight on books that have been either seen or referenced throughout the dynamic four seasons of "Lost." The book list will be added to regularly on ABC.com, with a list also available for audio download on the iTunes Store (www.itunes.com).

Also available on ABC.com will be a message board to discuss the titles, a synopsis of each book, along with when and how it was referenced in the show, and an introduction by co-creator/executive producer Damon Lindelof and executive producer Carlton Cuse. Book examples include Sawyer reading Watership Down, Juliet's book club reading Carrie and an orientation film hidden behind The Turn of the Screw.

New PopCast!

If you haven’t downloaded this week’s PopCast, you are missing out. The gang takes on sad songs. What makes you cry? Share the tears.




You can listen to it live or download it here or on the PopPulse front page. You can also subscribe to it through iTunes. Do a search for the Beaufort Gazette.

Wall-E is great

We watched Wall-E at the drive-in last night. Great movie. You ever have someone say, wow, great movie. Then you say, yeah? And then they say, you should see it. And you say, yeah? And then that say, REALLY, you should see it. And then you say, OK. Then they say, No, REALLY, go see it. Now.

Anyway, yeah, Wall-E is one of those movies. Just go see it. It’s great. And we don’t watch a lot of cartoon movies. Actually, Pixar, the guys behind Wall-E, are the only ones we really watch. There is an artistry there, a dedication to a good story, character development – they make movies, not just cartoons. And Wall-E might be there best, more on that in a moment.

What’s great about the movie is its heart. It’s very reminiscent of, and owes a lot to, ET. First, Wall-E looks like ET (someone in the office mentioned how he looked like Johnny 5 (who is alive) from Short Circuit, and while that was true, Johnny 5 (who’s Johnny, you say, and smile in that special way) looked like ET. Ergo, Wall-E looks like ET). Second, there is an intelligence to the character AND a child-like quality. You care about him immediately, like ET, almost from the moment he is on screen. He’s able to fend for himself in a harsh world, but still seem vulnerable and needy.

Did we mention this is a cartoon about a robot? It’s amazing what these guys can do with computers. In a film, you have an actor and a director and an editor. They work together to make a final product or shape a character. In a movie like this, you have literally hundreds of different people, all responsible for shaping ONE character. They all have to get every mannerism, every movement, every reaction the same.

Yes, there is a director (Andrew Stanton, in this case, who deserves an Oscar nod), but he is piecing together a final product. The artists themselves have to have a cohesion of design, particularly in a movie like this, that relies almost solely on movement. (Wall-E does speak, but it is limited. Most of the character development is Chaplin-esque in the way that it develops from gestures and faces and looks).

Anyway, here are our rankings of the Pixar movies form worst to best. This was harder than we thought it was going to be. Feel free to argue:

8. Monsters Inc.

The thing we like about Pixar, one of the things, is that they CAST good actors/comics/voices in roles. It’s not like they go out and get, say, Cameron Diaz to be Cameron Diaz. Really, what does she bring to the role? Is it that great to have Jackie Chan play a panda when you can barely understand him when he plays a human?

Not to say they don’t get big names, but Tom Hanks is an ACTOR who plays a role, not just a voice. Luke Wilson, Paul Newman, Holly Hunter, Eric Bana, Kevin Spacey — all actors first. And when they cast a comedian, it’s someone who fits the story. You get a sense that they don’t cast, say, Robin Williams and go, “OK, now, you be funny. We’ll draw around you.” Albert Brooks, Patton Oswalt, Ellen DeGeneres, Dave Foley — these are cerebral, interesting, left of center comics who bring a personality to the table. They aren't wacky, hacky whirling dirvish comics. (And, yes, we’ll get to Larry the Cable Guy later.)




With that said, Billy Crystal is the closest they’ve come to casting one of those comics. The end result is good. We liked the movie. But we just find Crystal kind of annoying. And we’ve only seen the movie once, and don’t remember thinking we had to see it again.

7. A Bug’s Life




Good movie. We liked Kevin Spacey as the villain. But this came out after Antz, which we liked mainly because Woody Allen did the lead voice, and we always (rightly or wrongly) thought of this as a ripoff.

6. Cars

This one surprised us. We’re not that into cars. Did we mention Larry the Cable Guy is in it? (Honest time: Even though we sort of hate him, he's great in the movie. So there.)




Pixar always weaves in a subtle message into its movies, not hitting you over the head with it. We liked Cars' message, about preserving the past. Plus, Luke Wilson and Paul Newman are both great.

5. Finding Nemo

In our ongoing underrated/overrated study, Albert Brooks deserves an underrated nod. He’s not nearly as heralded or as famous as he should be. This is the closest he came to mainstream success, and you don’t even see him.




Again, great voice casting. William Dafoe and Ellen DeGeneres are both great. DeGeneres should exclusively play fish. Even on her horrible talk show.

And that one scene, where Nemo’s mom dies. Well, bummer. But heart-wrenching. Cartoons aren’t supposed to make you feel like that.

4. Ratatouille

This was a risk by Pixar. First, the title, we didn't know how to pronounce it until about a week ago. Second, a cartoon aimed at kids (reared on McDonalds) all about the importance of gourmet food. Third, it stars a rat. Who cooks.




And shockingly, it works. All of it. There will be a generation of gourmet chefs that, 15 years from now, will mention this movie as the inspiration for getting them in the kitchen.

3. The Incredibles

Seriously, you can’t go wrong with super heroes and quasi-’50s sci-fi movie cliches.




It’s smart, funny, amazing to look at. We’re repeating adjectives here, but that’s because all Pixar movies share the same traits: humor, warmth, strong characters, intelligence.

2. Wall-E

We’ve raved about this enough, and we didn’t even touch on how this is easily one of the best romantic movies of the last 10 years. Maybe THE best.




And it is all about robots. It’s fair to say this is the best robot love story ever, just ahead of R2D2 and C3PO.


1. Toy Story/Toy Story 2

This is sort of unfair, because there are two movies. But we were trying to think of how we’d rank them, which would come first. Which is hard to do. Then we realized, wait, it’s OUR column. We can do what we want. Suckers!




We’d probably give the nod to Toy Story 2, although it’s been a while since we’ve seen either of them, so our memory is fuzzy about which we liked better.




And this was the movie that started the computer-animated generation. It completely changed the way we watch movies. How often does that happen?

We saw a trailer before Wall-E for some horrible-looking toon called Fly Me to the Moon about flies (ugh) who get sent to the moon (ugh). The announcer boasted that this was the FIRST EVER animated movie created for 3D. And we thought, wow, how sad.

Like, the Jazz Singer is the first sound movie, and while it is dated, it was at least memorable. It wasn’t forgotten. Neither is Toy Story. It was the first AND a classic. We don’t have the same confidence for Fly Me to the Moon, but whatever.

Anyway, there it is. Debate all you want. We’re right.

Comments

The only way I will join the Lost book club is if a shirtless Sawyer shows up at my house to discuss the books with me.

As for Wall-E though, WOW! The music, the "acting," even the love story were incredible.


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Posted by Meghann Ackerman - Wed, 2008-07-02 16:54

Toy Story 1 was far better than 2, which felt cheap and tawdry ... rehashed to say the least. Uninspired to say the worst. I think you've got your Toy Story films confused - it must be all that bong smoke that's fogging your mind.
Or all the years of alcohol abuse when you lived in North Carolina.
It's gotta be something, because there's NO way that WALL-E isn't by FAR the best thing Pixar's ever done. Ever. Even the animated short at the film's beginning is the best of that series.
WALL-E has all the Pixar hallmarks, but what really sets it apart is that it has so few spoken words ... maybe a dozen or two lines of dialogue tops. The vast majority of the film features the characters communicating in gestures ... you know, REALLY acting and emoting. You're dead-on when you describe the film as one the best romance flicks ever. But it's because these two characters don't have the crutch of conversation that makes them so amazing.
You could NOT make this movie ... make this relationship between two characters ... work in a live action film. You could try; I'm sure it's been attempted. But the bar has been set impossibly high.
And shame on you for lowering it even the slightest in order to justify placing Toy Story tops on your list.
Beyond the mechanics of the two films and the uniqueness of their characters, just compared side by side ... WALL-E is STILL the superior film. How can you deny that? You can't sir ... you just can't!
Change your list. You owe it to your readers. Think about the kids, man. Think about the kids.


Posted by Godzilla74 - Wed, 2008-07-02 17:10

No. 2 is high praise considering the competition. It is part of our DNA that we're usually reluctant to name something THE BEST EVER after we've just seen it. We like a little time. With that said, it's still no. 2!!! So shut up and relax.


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Posted by poppulse - Wed, 2008-07-02 23:09

I agree with Godzilla about WALL-E. It's a transcendent work of art from beginning to end. Gorgeous to look at, compelling story line, and like nothing we've ever seen on screen before. That first half hour or so, when WALL-E's just sifting around through the rubble of earth... and you've got that Hello Dolly music in the background... so brilliantly funny and poignant. But with its lack of dialogue and haunting atmosphere (not to mention its socio-political implications), I'd venture to say WALL-E's not really a children's movie. In fact, I wonder if kids are even liking it. My 7-year-old loved it (twice!), but I'm wondering about other, less exceptional children :) No, seriously... what about the younger kids? Has anybody out there taken a 4 or 5 year old? How'd it go?


Posted by margjeff - Thu, 2008-07-03 07:03

Agree with Godzilla? We would like to point out, again, that the point of this column was to say how great and, yes, BRILLIANT we thought WALL-E was. Placing it second behind the Toy Storys does not lessen our appreciation of it. Ask us in a year and we might have bumped it up to No. 1.

Our ego is way too fragile to be upstage by a reader. How dare you!


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Posted by poppulse - Thu, 2008-07-03 10:28

Trust me. I sat in a theater, and the second WALL-E popped up on screen every kid in the theater who didn't have a pacifier stuffed in his mouth shouted, "WAAAAAAAALLLLLLL-EEEEEEE." (And I think the baby with the pacifier in front of me pointed at the screen and applauded. That or he was stretching.)

WALL-E is sweet-Jesus-good. One of the best movies I've seen. I'm not sure I've seen anything as surprisingly romantic as the scene where WALL-E, using a fire extinguisher as a propellant, and EEEEEEEVVVVVVUHHH chase each other through space.

And Jeff Garlin was kind of classic. ("Computer: Define 'ho-down.'")


Posted by jcribbs - Thu, 2008-07-03 14:09

Poppulse, I entirely disagree with Finding Nemo's placement. I own every one of these movies on DVD, saw all but Toy Story in the Theater. Finding Nemo shouold be at least number 2 or 3. The Incredibles was a good movie, but the heartfelt story line and breathtaking animation behind Nemo leaves Incredibles in the dust. Just think of all the priceless things about Nemo, Dory....she is awesome. Crush.....the most fabulous turtle EVER. Seagulls, MINE, MINE,. It is what, 4 years later....my daughter still loves this movie. She hardly every wants to watch the Incredibles or Ratatouille. What is your reasoning in this order?


Posted by claudia42282 - Thu, 2008-07-03 07:59

Well, for starters, I'm not your daughter (wait, am i?). So, we imagine, what a 32-year-old man finds interesting might be different than what a 4-18 year-old girl/woman enjoys. At least, we hope it is. Maybe the fact that she likes Nemo more than the other two is why we like the other two more than Nemo. We imagine we enjoy Godfater I and II more than her too.

We LOVE Finding Nemo. We really do. All of these movies, if we were to go year by year and rank our top five movies, they'd each make those lists. So, you know, it was a close race. But, we don't know, we just enjoy the rat and the super heroes more than Nemo. But it was a close race. Like, really close. Tell your daughter that Nemo fought hard. It was a tough call.


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Posted by poppulse - Thu, 2008-07-03 10:33
Ha!

There's nothing wrong with agreeing with me, by the way; I just wanted to point that out. In fact, if more people did, this would be a better world.
I know this is "your" list, Pop, but you're really cheating here. You lump both Toy Story flicks together, when you really can't. That said, when compared against the Toy Story flicks (collectively or separately) WALL-E is still the better film, in my opinion. Sure, its message can get a bit heavy-handed at times. I mean, there's nothing subtle about skyscraper-sized towers of trash cubes; and the fattened remains of humanity doesn't exactly speak to a light touch on our growing obesity.
Barring that, this film is perfect. PERFECT!! How dare you argue with perfection!?
Who do you think you are? Some sort of smartypants critic? Eh?
Strike that last statement from the record, your honor.
As far as kids enjoying this film ... the theater I saw it in was about 65% adults, and the kids seemed to like it. What was more poignant, though, was that I heard several adults (including my wife) sniffling and crying at the film's sad moments - when WALL-E is in mortal danger.
To really express the film's duality in appeal - when my wife was crying at a particularly gut-wrenching moment, this child behind us whispered (albeit loudly enough for the whole theater to hear) to his mom: "Is WALL-E gone Mommy?"
Just wow.
It brought back memories from when I saw Disney's "The Black Hole," and that beat up clunker of a robot, "Old Bob," didn't make it out. I balled like a child. Wait, I was a child. I'm still, to this day, emotionally affected by that film and that character. I can't see "The Black Hole," even now.


Posted by Godzilla74 - Thu, 2008-07-03 11:19

What is the argument? That WALL-E is great, superb in fact (which WE said, by the way, at the beginning of this) or that it is better than the Toy Storys? Let's say, for sake of argument, it is better, does that diminish the Toy Storys? No. So does it diminish WALL-E that Toy Storys are slightly better? No.

We think the best movie ever made is Casablanca. We'd also put Citizen Kane, the Godfathers and Pulp Fiction on that list of best five. Does it diminish Godfather that Casablanca is better in our book? No. Does it mean we don't think Godfather is brilliant just because we think there is ONE MOVIE that is better than it? No.

WALL-E is great. So there. The Black Hole, however, stinks.


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Posted by poppulse - Thu, 2008-07-03 12:16

Personally, I see Wall-E getting his looks from Silent Running .. .that cult classic. Ever see that one Pop?

I'm lost again on Lost. And I watched them all this year. Can I get an explanation please? I think I understand.

Ok, so the Island vanished. Cool - end of story. Get on with your lives - talk among yourselves.


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Posted by joefarrell - Thu, 2008-07-03 11:32

Settle down, Pop, or you'll give yourself shingles. There's no argument here; we both agree (oh, and that wonderfully informed reader) that WALL-E is a great film, and that it's in great company. I just think it's a superior product than Toy Story 1 or 2, and that you're lazy for lumping the two films together rather than make the hard choice of splitting them apart. Clearly TS1 is better than TS2; and I'm saddened to hear that a third installment is coming.
I have seen Silent Running, to change the beaten-horse-subject, in bits and pieces, but never all at once. I just read the synopsis on Wiki, and now I think I'm going to try and find it on DVD.
As far as Lost, it's hard to help you, Joe, unless you ask more specific questions.
The past season was spent bouncing in time and space, as we saw flash-forwards of what happened to the folks who got off the island. In fact, the entire season was designed to bring us slowly back in the past to the point where the past flashbacks (the island's current happenings) and the flash-forwards met.
Ben, apparently, had to move the island (in space or time, or both) so that Widmore couldn't find it again. Ben's also got it out for Widmore's daughter, Penny, whom he's sworn to kill ... because Widmore apparently gave the green light to kill Alex, Ben's "adoptive" daughter.
But in moving the island, Ben can't return. So far. So he's spent the time away from the island reconnecting with the Oceanic 6, those who escaped, in order to make a return to the island. I think. We know that John Locke dies after leaving the island in order to try and convince the O6 to return because in their absence, "bad things" had happened. Apparently, they were not meant to leave, and their departure has had horrible ramifications for not just the O6's personal lives (minus maybe Kate), but for the island folks as well.
Next season will most likely feature the O6+Ben (and maybe Walt) trying to return / find the island once again to try and set things right ... however they went wrong.


Posted by Godzilla74 - Thu, 2008-07-03 16:06

If Ben made the island disappear, how does he get off?

It will all be explained, maybe, next year, unless the wander off on another tangent. . .

Silent Running - the first environmental movie that 35 years later still has meaning. . . . just goes to show nothing changes.

I saw Apocalypse Now the other day - sad to see the parallels to the War on Terrorism in how the thing gets fought.

As I said, nothing changes but the technology.


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Posted by joefarrell - Thu, 2008-07-03 17:05

***** Lost Spoiler Alert *****
***** Lost Spoiler Alert *****
***** Lost Spoiler Alert *****
You've been warned.

....
Joe, there's a wheel-like device in an icy cave at the very way bottom of The Orchid, which is a greenhouse station on the surface of the island. Below The Orchid is another research station, this one dealing with time travel.
There's a lot of other details I could mention, but it would take far too long. At any rate, whomever turns the wheel to activate The Orchid, well they can't come back. Ben knew he had to be the one to turn the wheel, feeling that it was Jacob's will, and that Jacob was pissed at him for what he'd done. Ben did apologize to John for making his life so miserable, which can mean so many things.
Ben turned the wheel and the island disappeared - Poof! It's good stuff. You've gotta catch up sir.


Posted by Godzilla74 - Mon, 2008-07-07 16:54
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