Trial Results

Ok...the Wicker decicion is expected at 4pm Thursday. Who wants to make a prediction? I say it's death. I think Judge Buckner knew before the trial ended what he would do, and it was merely a matter of preparing the written decision. If he were wrangling over it, he would take longer. That's just my gut feeling.


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but, i wish he'd hurry


Posted by zoo - Wed, 2008-04-09 18:03

Buckner is facing his first ever encounter with having to decide whether someone (sub-human or otherwise) will live or die. That is not an easy decision and we must give him the latitude he needs so that he can deal with his own conscience. We can ramble all we want here, but it is his decision and I would not trade places with him for anything!


Posted by topgunscooter - Wed, 2008-04-09 19:19

..know. I just wish it were over. I've felt sick all week. I cant imagine how her family is feeling.


Posted by StephanieS - Wed, 2008-04-09 21:47

StephanieS,

I agree, that this thing needs to be over, especially for Mrs. Welden's family and loved ones. I disagree however with those who are insisting on the death penalty. I'm not against such a penalty, but I don't think it fits in this situation. first of all, I believe that Judge Buckner must be able to weigh it all out and do what works within his parameters. But, I also think that regardless of the cost to we taxpayers, the punishment should be equal to the offense. The State is restricted as to how it can execute a capital offender, and more often than not, the offender is given a swift and comfortable demise. Wick deserves exactly what he did to Mrs. Welden or worse! I think he would be more aptly punished by sentencing him to life in a facility swarming with many really bad guys! Folks who would possibly think ill of someone like him who would prey upon a defenseless elderly lady. Folks who might very well allow him to continue to live in fear of each and every emerging moment for the rest of his miserable life. Folks who might rape or sodomize him unannounced and frequently on an almost hourly basis for his remaining living eternity. Folks who might choke him just to the edge of death (but not quite) on an equally frequent basis. Let him spend years experiencing exactly what he did to his victim, day in and day out with no release....not even death! Then televise it on reality TV so the next perv might think twice before perpetrating a similar crime. I would gladly volunteer to have my taxes doubled if it would help to make that happen!


Posted by topgunscooter - Wed, 2008-04-09 22:29

I understand what you are saying. Trust me, I would love for him to be taken out of this world in the exact fashion he decided to remove her.

I've always heard people talking about the terrible things that are going to happen to people once they get to prison because they did this, or that. But I cant help but over think the situation. The people in prison arent good people or they wouldnt be there. They are drug users, killers, rapists so on and so forth. I dont think people get raped in prison because of what they did on the outside, they get raped because someone is tired of Rosey Palm and her five sisters company.

Through this whole thing I have not been able to stop thinking about Brett Kinney's case and the out come. If he is not sentenced to death I believe I may have to ask "What does one have to do in the state of South Carolina (save killing a cop) to warrant the sentence of death?"

It's been over a year and I have never been able to say this correctly or find the right words for it but:

People kill people every day. It's not right and I dont agree with it.

People kill people every day for money for drugs. It's not right and I dont agree with it.

His story is he killed her for money for drugs. Okay. Why did you rape her? Why did you go even further than that?

ugh...

Tomorrow around 4 if he is not sentenced to death and you feel the earth shift a little bit don't worry. It's just me exploding.


Posted by StephanieS - Wed, 2008-04-09 22:46

Stephanie,

I too understand your position and share your anguish. I knew Brett Kinney, and he was a wonderfully innocent and astonishing individual. Mrs. Welden was very much the same, and neither deserves the fate they received!

Above all else, Mrs. Welden was a mother or mother figure to many, and her presence on our plane of existence will be sorely missed forever. You mentioned the quality of character or lack thereof that may be present within those who occupy our prison system, and you made some very valid points. They didn't get there as a result of being "nice" people, and in many cases, they would be the last people I would look to for justice. Try to understand though, that such institutions have two sets of societal rules: the one the system dictates, and the one they create for themselves in order to survive their incarceration. Theirs I believe is the stronger of the two in the long run because they must both live under it, and administer it. Their laws on the inside undoubtedly have fewer boundaries than what our outside society would allow

It has been noted in many accounts that inmates populating such institutions have little or no respect or regard for people who perpetrate crimes against helpless children and elderly folks (especially women). It is doubtful that all prisoners have children (or healthy relationships with any children), but it is an undeniable fact that each and every one of them has or did have a mother! Regardless of their present situation, their mothers brought them into this world, and there is and always will be a bond between mother and child! I firmly believe that this bond carries over with them as it does with most of us, and the vast majority of them see all mothers in the same light that they would see their own. Few of them could tolerate the thought of something like what Wick did. Not to their own mothers or to the mothers of any others. You may be correct, it could be nothing more than boredom with Rosie, and frankly I could care less. But I do think that they would make his remaining life a living Hell no matter what reasoning they conjured up. They say that there is honor among thieves, perhaps there is, and perhaps not. It really doesn't matter as long as he is appropriately dealt with. You never know, it could be that God might appoint the prisoners I mentioned as his messengers and allow Timothy wick to begin his eternity of suffering and payback right here in South Carolina.

I know that I must appear to be rather cold-hearted toward Wick, and I sincerely apologize to all of you here if I have offended you. I do not however have any apologies for this animal, and I feel he deserves the worst that we could imagine for him. My own mother lives on only in Heaven and in the hearts of those of us who loved her. Mrs. Welden is in the same place now, and I wouldn't feel that I had honored either of them if I had more liberal views toward Wick!


Posted by topgunscooter - Wed, 2008-04-09 23:28

and we know we don't have to think about it anymore. No 30 years, no life in prison; there's no closure there. We want a set date so we can celebrate. I don't mind too much if the judge needs time to make it ok for himself, but it's ok... give him death


Posted by zoo - Thu, 2008-04-10 08:01
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