Rude behavior at the pool and beach

Amy Rigard has a terrific story in Sunday’s paper about beach and pool etiquette. In addition to talking to etiquette experts, she also polled a few poolgoers and beachgoers. Surprisingly (well, surprising for me, since I can complain about literally anything) people weren’t nearly as worked up about rude behavior as we thought. We got a few tepid responses, and a couple of “well some people don’t like this, but I don’t mind it” comments.

Now, I’m certain the Gazoggers won’t be nearly so polite, in a good way. What pool/beach behavior have you observed at the water that left you positively red in the face? Share some of your horror stories and let us know what you expect when you’re laying on a towel in the sun.


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They say they are fishin for **** you name it. But sand sharks (who can take your toes or your baby's foot), predatory fish, really don't care, they will come in for the bait.
The Hunting Island beach as well as BIG TIME Coligny Beach really ticks me off. When Andy was little, I had NO problem telling the phisherpeople to move off, idiot, there are KIDS HERE!
Dang! Would find pickemup trucks with beds full of sharks caught at the swimming beaches.
Nope. Didn't tolerate that.


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Posted by karenandysmom - Fri, 2007-07-13 19:43

When you shake the sand out of your blanket, check to see which way the wind is blowing and see if anyone else is going to get a face full of your sand.


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Posted by palmettocrab - Fri, 2007-07-13 21:38

don't play your music, or talk so loud that I can hear it on my blanket. All I want to hear is the sound of the surf. Thank you.


Posted by luvbft - Fri, 2007-07-13 23:51

Get off of the beach... You are ruining MY view of the ocean....

If you were THAT concerned about your baby's toes, you would never have put them in the ocean to start with.
Who is going to remove the Sting Rays, Jellyfish, Bluefish, Large Turtles and all of the other potential harmful things in the ocean?
Let's stop airplanes from flying overhead... Boats from passing the beach... People from bringing food to the beach that could attract rabid raccoons...

Look at it this way... If the fisherman did not catch these sharks they would still be there waiting on you to put your toes in the water.

Try going to a POOL next time.....
Now have a great day....


Posted by Avenger - Sat, 2007-07-14 06:43

Sir...I don't think that it was stated that you shouldn't fish...but goodness sake, use some common sense when picking your spots to cast in. I been at the beach when a fisherman had to snake through blankets and set his rod in between pods of swimmers. This is rude. Fish well up or down beach from the people...when they walk by, then they can marvel at the interesting things that you are able to pull from the murky bottoms.


Posted by lowcountrycat - Sat, 2007-07-14 07:18

I guess Hunting Island beach is finally getting crowded! Maybe the State of South Carolina should have bought Harbor Island when it available years ago before it was developed into housing. South Carolina considered making it a second beach park for residents, but one of our SC Senators turned it down. Big mistake!


Posted by daybynight - Sat, 2007-07-14 07:31

I believe that some time ago the bloggers on this site did some research and found that the beach at Harbor Island is open to the public and that the gate/development must allow access, even though it doesn't appear that way to most people. Most of those bloggers are no longer participating on this site so I am not sure if anyone remembers the details of the discussion. Of course parking could require a bit of a walk for the public that is not necessarily allowed to park within the compound.

As far as fishing on the beaches, if it is allowed by the park/state, why should swimmers have any more rights than the people fishing? One fallacy in our society is that children have unlimited rights that may trump those of adults. While that may be convenient for some very permissive parents, it is an ill conceived notion that is not based on fact, but on someones desire. Protecting children is obviously desired and necessary, but the burden of doing so falls on the parents. In a nut shell, parents should not expect everyone else to raise their children or to be incovenienced by them.


Posted by Shadows - Sat, 2007-07-14 09:07

'public'. It is the access that will get you.
As far as fishing where swimmers are, I never go near the fishing folk. It is when they cast where people are swimming that I have a problem. Whoever is there first trumps.
So I get there early.


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Posted by karenandysmom - Sat, 2007-07-14 11:04

It's something about the "high water mark", but this part of the beach is not Federal property but belongs to the various states for the public to use freely as "public beach access".

Now I don't know if a Federal installation is directly on a beach, whether that sand belongs to the state or our Federal government.


Posted by daybynight - Sat, 2007-07-14 13:59

this comes up frequently on HHI. The beaches are public. Access may be private, ie: SPP, PR, & etc. The public access on HHI include Coligney and Singleton in the Folly area.
No one entity owns the sand ceptin we the people ... And yes, it may well be to the high water mark.


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Posted by karenandysmom - Sat, 2007-07-14 14:36

Didn't Beaufort County taxpayers buy Coligny Beach before Hilton Head became an incorporated town and then took over ownership of that beach?

I know that Hilton Head has a department called the "Hilton Head Recreation Association", but if one goes on the Beaufort County Parks and Leisure Services web page it's surprising just how much Beaufort County takes care of Hilton Head's parks, maybe beaches too.


Posted by daybynight - Sat, 2007-07-14 15:16

The pavilion and restrooms were built over the old parking pad access. The free parking went bye bye with it. The parking is now metered and by purchased annual permit on lot across Forest Beach. The beach itself belongs to everyone. The Town may have gotten county funds to purchase the land the parking pad was on (right next to the Holiday Inn), or the county may have already owned the parking pad, which I am sure is the case. The Town built the new facilities probably with county, state and federal funds. The Town maintains it. The beach itself is monitored by the Beach Patrol, a contracted company through the Town. Again, I haven't seen their budget, so I am assuming the Town pays 100%, but I may be wrong.
The beach itself is federal sand.


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Posted by karenandysmom - Sat, 2007-07-14 15:24

Thanks for your information - I've not been there for a long time.

An interesting web page is this:
www.hiltonheadislandsc.gov/Island/park&fac.html

I really think it's about time Hilton Head began to maintain its own parks. Maybe some of that clean-up personnel and services money Beaufort County is spending on Hilton Head could better be used to make and maintain a public park on Lady's Island.


Posted by daybynight - Sat, 2007-07-14 15:53

I went kayaking with some friends back in May and learned about the high water mark. We beached our kayaks on a little island in the Whale Branch River and he said that the beach is public up to the high tide mark, even if the island belongs to someone.


Posted by kandk - Sat, 2007-07-14 16:03
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Posted by karenandysmom - Sat, 2007-07-14 17:33

Yes, when Harbor Island owners were granted development rights it was a part of the agreement that there would be, forever, ten spots within the compound for parking of the general public, and these people could use the private beach.

I've heard that the gatekeepers at Harbor Island are all not aware of this provision.

It is true that within a few years of development the original ten spots were moved, but placed not far away. I hadn't heard that the parking for the general public has been eliminated completely.

I guess maybe interested parties need to review the property deeds, and check the entrance regulations. Harbor Island development probably dates back about 25 years or so. The original construction was by Coastal Contractors.


Posted by daybynight - Sat, 2007-07-14 14:14

and wait until they build those 5 thousand homes out in Clarendon Farms. Whew, talk about your crowds. More rudeness, more traffic, more schools needed, higher taxes. It just goes on and on. The Beaufort of just yesterday no longer exists. Hang on it only gets faster, noisier, busier, costlier and more crowded now.


Posted by momnjoebob - Sat, 2007-07-14 11:20

golly bum, the town of HHI agrees with me. Whaddaya think of that? They are a high ticket vacation resort destination, though and can ill afford shark attacks, think what it would do for tourism.

Good to know we don't have to deal with that over here, we don't care who gets bit.

For the added protection of sunbathers and swimmers, the following activities are prohibited in Designated Swimming Areas between 10 a.m. and 6 p.m. April 1 through September 30:

Fishing or surfcasting
Surfboards, boogie boards, etc.
Frisbees or other team sports involving a ball
Games with metal components


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Posted by karenandysmom - Sun, 2007-07-15 13:30

One of the things that has always bothered me when I have gone to the beach is the inconsideration of females that usually age in range from about 22 to 40, although some of the offenders are younger and older. I have noticed that a lot of other people, male and female, often appear to be bothered as well, but few ever say anything thing about it. It must be the universal politeness that pervades our society.

What I am referring to are the very skimpy bathing suits and beach attire that some females don to go to the beach. It is obviously not very healthy given the occurrence of skin cancer in our society, not to mention heat exhaustion and/or heat stroke. Yet, I have never seen a caring man or woman ever approach any of these females to suggest that they put on more clothing. Lots of stares and looks are given, but no one says a thing.

The whole thing has gotten a bit out of hand if you ask me. A couple of years ago when I was on the beach in Jamaica, the woman lying on a beach chair next to me was wearing a two piece bathing suit that seemed modest enough. All of a sudden she removed the top of her suit and I was appalled that she would expose such obviously sensitive white skin to the intense rays of the sun. Without getting into the physics of the situation, suffice it to say that she was placing her self in grave danger.

Of course being the gentleman that I aspire to be, I didn't want to say anything to offend this woman, but I did keep an eye on her after great deliberation, and having decided to throw caution to the wind and say something if I noticed any reddening or other danger signs. Fortunately, none of the signs appeared, but I remained vigilant and armed with a bottle of sun screen for application if necessary. I felt as though it was the least that I could do given the situation. BTW, I now always carry sun screen for such emergencies.

Although I am not sure that this qualifies as rudeness per se, it sure can be an emotional and somewhat disturbing experience.


Posted by Shadows - Sat, 2007-07-14 17:38

Nice to know about your sincere concern for the topless sunbather. Sick old man! ;-)


Posted by kandk - Sat, 2007-07-14 17:44

Thank you for your kind words.......it's all in the interest of good health and concern for other people. Some refer to that as kindness.


Posted by Shadows - Sat, 2007-07-14 17:58

........the feeble attempts to appear clever are as tiresome as ever.


Posted by CGLuther - Sat, 2007-07-14 18:24

Yup. Not an original thought in his head.


Posted by scnative - Sat, 2007-07-14 18:26

Remember what I once told you about giving and being willing to receive angst? If degradation to the blog is what you and your buddies desire......so be it. Who am I to stand in the way of perceived "progress?" Maybe now you can blame it on me instead of UTTSM or Freddie......go ahead in your usual ignorant manner...whine a little bit or maybe do a little cut and paste....at least that will afford you something to say.

Shadows wrote:
Shadows wrote:

SC, in case you forgot what you FIRST said and my reply, here it is:

scnative wrote:

I am convinced that Shadows' tongue is sewn firmly to his cheek. (Sometimes I wonder which of the four cheeks it is sewn to. :-D)

Shadows wrote:

SC, If you thought that your mention of those "cheeks" would cause me to permit a close up physical examination by you........forget about it..... BTW, you might also want to focus on someone else's tongue instead of mine.....it's also off limits to you. Have a nice evening.


Posted by Shadows - Sat, 2007-07-14 19:36

Shadows is talking to himself and repeating it.


Posted by scnative - Sat, 2007-07-14 21:00

scnative wrote:

Shadows is talking to himself and repeating it.

and the ugly ,fat girls still do not have a date. SCnaieve,Lutherine and AuntEster never seem to get out anymore.

Sad! So sad. I looked for the 3 of you on the sandbar today. You all really need to get out more. Now that Lutherine has SCnaieve to change those depends we should expect to see more of you lovely girls out on the town? right?


Posted by assortednutsand... - Sun, 2007-07-15 19:43

Hmmm. This post explains a lot about you, nuts.


Posted by scnative - Sun, 2007-07-15 22:12

CG, Esterhaus is looking for you. I think it is time for your support group meeting. BTW, I noticed your use of the word "feeble." My earlier use of it must have inspired you to learn a new word. Keep working on that vocabulary.....those neurons need some long awaited exercise.

You mentioned that you were tired.....why not give that visual cortex a rest and simply spend your time with Esterhaus......just the two of you. He has on his cheerleader persona right now...and apparently shares your fondness for excrement. I'll bet he read all of your comments about it over and over. BTW, great blog!


Posted by Shadows - Sat, 2007-07-14 18:47

...should I call it "it" or call it "Phil"....regardless, I read it's threats about revelaing my identity when it so felt like doing so, as if it had such capability....there is an old axiom in engineering, its not a solution if it is not feasible....it thought the solution to its problem was to out my identity, only problem was none of its little charade was FEASIBLE....not feasible to track my identity, not by others far more capable than he or anyone he knows, so tracking my identity was not feasible solution to his desire to rid me of this blog.....it needs to return to molesting school children, that is within its capabilities.....


Posted by utriedtosilenceme - Sat, 2007-07-14 21:00

I am also amused at good ole scnative, the cut and paste preacher who is still having trouble understanding that golden rule.....He is such an inspiration. "It" has a tendency to get lost and Esterhaus takes a lot of time getting in and out of his cheer-leading uniform. What a mess this trio is. The three stooges couldn't have provided such amusement because people would have never believed that three people collectively would be able to display such ignorance.

Well that's enough for this evening.....morning comes early. Good talking to you again.


Posted by Shadows - Sat, 2007-07-14 21:33

Shadows wrote:

I am also amused at good ole scnative, the cut and paste preacher who is still having trouble understanding that golden rule.....He is such an inspiration. "It" has a tendency to get lost and Esterhaus takes a lot of time getting in and out of his cheer-leading uniform. What a mess this trio is. The three stooges couldn't have provided such amusement because people would have never believed that three people collectively would be able to display such ignorance.

Well that's enough for this evening.....morning comes early. Good talking to you again.

C&P just for you, shadows.

"Preacher"? Me? Hahahahaaa! I am not even close to qualifying for that hardy role. But thanks for the compliment.

"Golden rule", you say? Where is that from? The Quran? "The Wizard of Oz"? One of the Tom and Huck books?

Yes, I have to admit we are displaying ignorance. And we are putting you guys in the window as the center display. Enjoy the attention.


Posted by scnative - Sat, 2007-07-14 21:47

scnative wrote:
Shadows wrote:

I am also amused at good ole scnative, the cut and paste preacher who is still having trouble understanding that golden rule.....He is such an inspiration. "It" has a tendency to get lost and Esterhaus takes a lot of time getting in and out of his cheer-leading uniform. What a mess this trio is. The three stooges couldn't have provided such amusement because people would have never believed that three people collectively would be able to display such ignorance.

Well that's enough for this evening.....morning comes early. Good talking to you again.

C&P just for you, shadows.

"Preacher"? Me? Hahahahaaa! I am not even close to qualifying for that hardy role. But thanks for the compliment.

"Golden rule", you say? Where is that from? The Quran? "The Wizard of Oz"? One of the Tom and Huck books?

Yes, I have to admit we are displaying ignorance. And we are putting you guys in the window as the center display. Enjoy the attention.

Now that right there is funny.

Dog & Sad Shad, quite the couple......one scarred by childhood abuse and the other a retarded pseudo-intellectual. They both seem oblivious to the fact that almost all the bloggers participating here recognize their pitiful BS for what it is.


Posted by Esterhaus - Sun, 2007-07-15 08:25

One of my biggest complaints is when people don’t pick up their trash! Now, I’m a frequent visitor to the down town sand bar and it irks me so much when people just let their empty beer cans, plastic cups, etc. just float away. Put your trash somewhere on your boat where it is secure! Food ~ well, that’s a little more excusable b/c the crabs will eat the chicken bones. But seriously! Put your cans/cups/plastic bags/etc. somewhere on your boat, not in the river. Our river is not a trash dump! I watched a guy throw his empty beer can in the water once and I just wanted to grab that can and smash in on his forehead! “here I believe this is yours” Moron! Of course, that was just my mental fantasy…I simply walked over and got his can and put it in my boat.


Posted by someone - Mon, 2007-07-16 08:40

I don't know about the skimpy bathing suits. What year is it? If the complaint is not wearing enough, it's their rep that's at stake. It's none of my business. I'm not there for anyone else but myself and to enjoy relaxing. And do please think about shaking your sand infested towel away from others. Throw away your trash. It's not that hard.
And please don't bring your dog if they are barkers. Other people bring their dog who are inside a house all day. Only to find that at the beach someone else's dog can't stop barking, which upsets your dog, making all the other dogs bark, frustrates the other dog owners, etc etc.... Fish away from others, our society has forgotten what it means to be considerate of other people. (ie people who love to talk loud on their cell phones so everyone can here it, I don't want to hear your conversations, "he said she said, blah blah blah) And getting back the skimpy bathing suit comments, Paaaalease, being concerned for sunburns or skin cancer. Just put on sunglasses so they can't tell that the real reason your looking is because you like looking, and you know it! If someone thin or not thin wants to wear a skimpy bathing suit, more power to them. I wished I was that bold. And lastly, and directed to those at pools, your conversations can be heard.
When talking about someone at the pool, keep it down, don't be so obvious and as we learned at children, don't stare! It's just rude!


Posted by Caligirl42 - Sat, 2007-08-04 11:26
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